#Atc guide mode free
#Atc guide mode mac

But that way, you have an locking device to belay the leader, and a light, versatile device for other applications where it is more safe. Or maybe they both have an ATC so both can rap, I'm not sure. This makes sense, I suppose, because it so light, so simple, and so versatile.Ī compromise between these options that I've read is for a pair of climbers to bring one ATC Guide and one grigri or similar. We always go on about redundancy, yet the ATC retains is popularity. In fact, I've always been shocked that gyms allow brand new climbers to go belaying their friends unsupervised with an ATC. For ascending/lowering/rapping, or even belaying from above, it is safe in guide mode, and/or can always be backed up. It is not versatile enough.Īn ATC Guide is about the lightest option, which is great. But it is too heavy for a multipitch trad setting, and can't belay/rap twin/half ropes even if it were lighter. The Grigri is bombproof, and I use it in the gym and at the sport crag. how about the grigri off the anchors?Īnd yet you still insists its not the device that makes any difference. no you switched to the ATC guide because it offers benefitsīasically youve admitted you have no real experience with the gigi/smart. didnt see you 'climbing'ĭo you still use yr old stich plate for multi?. Well i missed you the last 4 days i was in squish. Just because YOU dont use em doesnt mean that other people dont in fact the maxim glider and mammut galaxy are two of the most popular ropes out here. Plenty of people do use these out in squamish. So in short youve never used a gigi or smart and you dont know how much easier it is to pull through the rope. This goes for most equipment, to be honest.Īre you trying to make personal attacks again when 'losing' an argument? If you're having trouble with it under normal conditions, then the problem is the user, not the device.

Problem solved.īasically, you can blame the device all you want, but an ATC Guide is a perfectly good piece of equipment. A SMART is on my to-do list, but for a variety of reasons the ATC guide is still my go-to (including the fact that it's the device my climbing partners are familiar with).

You can gear-whore all you want, but proficiency trumps equipment choices every time. It's better in general to be proficient with the tools you have or are likely to have in any given situation rather than to have tried out everything at the shop. I've used grigris, various ATC variations, and some older devices, such as old-school tubes, 8s, rapp racks (for deep caving rappels), the good ol munter, and the body belay. Why? Because that allows me to focus on what's important, which is climbing.Īnyone with any real experience with the different devices knows this I'd rather be using a device that I am comfortable and confident with than a device that someone else tells me is marginally better. Gear reviewers get their gear gratis as well.

#Atc guide mode free

Pros often get a lot of free access to devices and can really play around with a bunch of equipment to decide what they like best. I'm not sure why Steph Davis requires the 'Miss' title, unless you're just enjoying being a sexist again.

#Atc guide mode mac

Regardless of any advice you may receive while using this forum, it is your personal responsibility to make sure that you are fully trained to handle the great deal of risk involved in climbing and related activities.Īnd yet miss steph davis and chris mac at outdoor gear lab state explicitely that the gigi is significantly easier to pull the rope through

Please understand that rock climbing is an extremely dangerous activity.

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